I just want to say that pieing Tommy Yune in the face was likely one of the smartest decisions I've made in my entire life. It wasn't to hurt him, it wasn't to hurt Harmony Gold or hurt Robotech; it was a great decision because it made sure that my true feelings were so manifested that there was suddenly little-to-no chance of turning back. Harmony Gold, we had already known by that point, was killing the old order of Robotech and showing no remorse for it, and by performing an action and making uninhibited public statements with regard to it's execution, I made myself known, hated, defiled, and otherwise, in many parts, bastardised by the Robotech community. With no other choice (especially in the month immediately following) I left the online fandom.

Since then, nothing has been the same. The Robotech fandom can go to hell, for all I care, because people who refuse to demand control of their own destiny deserve whatever is given to them--in this case, given to them by Harmony Gold. Every day, Robotech fans--and it doesn't matter if they're on Robotech.com, RDF-HQ, or yes, this very website--for the most part strike me as unthinking idiots whose sudden infatuation with retrogression of the Robotech continuity is canceled-out by a confusing want of progression and new product at the hands of Harmony Gold. It makes me very contented to know, when I cut the chance of any lasting ties in July of this year, I made the right choice.

"The right choice," of course, is to leave Robotech fandom altogether and think in a setting completely separate from the poison that is this fandom. I am not advocating the denunciation of Robotech fandom on an individual level. What I am doing, however, is proposing a "regroup, rebuild, return" methodology which has some comparison to the story of the Battletech universe: When General Kerensky saw that the Earth was filling with heathens and politics had prevented any chances of advancement, instead of wasting his life in vain, he contacted all military and political leaders loyal more to progression than to security and joined with them. Seeing their numbers to be too few to win in the present, they left the solar system to forge a society based upon good, promising to return one day in order to reclaim the ancestral home.

Kerensky was right in doing so. Bickering needs to end and a more direct, united purpose needs to be held. Solidarity and mutual understanding must be placed upon higher pedestals than quantity of membership and simple friendship. What Nenad, Michel, and the group here at the U.E.G. have done with their talents is admirable, but admittedly, I should hope it is just a warm-up for things to come. Stacy Smith and myself are doing the same, separating from Robotech because Robotech does little but hold us back any longer. If you're reading this, make no mistake: If you're not taking the inspiration you received from Robotech, as well as, I should hope, many, many other works of art, and doing something productive with it, then you're not doing anything. Participation on message boards is only profitable insofar as it helps share ideas in-between workdays and, to some extent, relieve the stresses which tend to build-up in this crazy world--it is not an admirable act or a worthwhile pasttime, not in the Robotech fandom, not any longer.

Those who truly wish to make a difference need to recognise that, at this point in time, the people who truly love Robotech will be overwhelmed by the unthinking, misguided, and unintellectual masses who see Robotech as a mere pasttime and a welcome reprieve from the stresses of working their lame-ass jobs and living with their lame-ass families. As mentioned before, the U.E.G. is a hard-working group as is mine own, so if you're not sure if you're ready to start-up your own project (and don't you dare call it a "fan project" if it's original!) then you've already got two teams you could volunteer to join, help, have a good time with, and ultimately with which hope to change the course of things. But the ball is in your court, and it's your move: Do you choose to stand around, bickering like countrywomen? or do you choose the path of a pioneer, aiming for the stars and believing, against all odds, that nothing can stop one who is pure of heart?

Well? What will it be?

Sincerely yours,
Adam Schiller

Thanks For the offer. But we are more then ready to embrace the new horizons...

It is very important to us to COMPLETE "Genesis" before the next, fully original venture...

For the sake of Completing an ongoing First project.( has nothing to do with the fact it is Robotech - Just with the fact it is an ongoing project) We will not just abandon it...


Think of it as training grounds. No matter how ready you feel you are, you must complete your training. And that is what we are doing. With each passing day. Increasing experience, increasing our knowledge base...

Increasing our capacity, breaching the limits... It is an amazing experience...
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Adam... what is fandom? A group of people socializing. People with the same affection for something. In this case Robotech( it may be Star trek as well...)

That group does not bind a person, nor it prevents one from going along his own path... And has no influence on a man's proffesional carreer. There is no much point in exegerating its meaning...

Nor it stops anyone's advancement.....


I will always have an affection for the original robotech, as well as for star trek, or gundam.... But that has nothing to do with any project( including Genesis). A project is here. And we will complete it.....
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And offcourse we are opened for any inter-team cooperation regarding any project. So if you have any suggestions, ideas... Shoot up

Looking forward to it..


Cheers. Nenad

nenad wrote:
Thanks For the offer. But we are more then ready to embrace the new horizons...It is very important to us to COMPLETE "Genesis" before the next, fully original venture...We will not just abandon it...
I didn't make you an offer. Therefore, you've got nothing to turn-down. It was a call-to-arms, a philosophical message (so to speak) with no certain target. In fact, if you actually read the words in the message, you'll note my undying support for you guys and not a single bad word about Robotech: Genesis. Leave it at that and don't try to act like I give a rat's ass what you do...as long as it's good.

And offcourse we are opened for any inter-team cooperation regarding any project. So if you have any suggestions, ideas... Shoot up
Only in private, my friend. Business gets done behind closed doors because certain people don't need to be listening. You know my e-mail address when and if you'd ever like to talk on neutral ground.

what is fandom? A group of people socializing. People with the same affection for something...That group does not bind a person, nor it prevents one from going along his own path...
For you and me, that might be true. But for people who shall remain unnamed, both posters here and otherwise, their "fandom" clouds any desire to themselves create anything. There are more than a few people who succumb to this stupidity yet bother themselves every day with talking about how "bad" things are. My initial post said exactly this: You're not going to make a difference on a message board or just by talking. Do something with your beliefs or at least admit that you are unwilling to take that step, but do not commit your self-image to some façade which says you're doing all you can to make a difference unless you are fighting in more ways than one.

As they say: "Talk is cheap." Robotech fandom has propagated some sort of misplaced belief that "talk" can make a difference, and now, more than ever, it is completely false. With this realisation in mind, I urge anyone and everyone who truly loves what Robotech was to escape the poison that is modern-day Robotech AND the fandom which surrounds it. Take your knowledge of the past and what made old-era Robotech great and clench it to your heart and run. Run. Run until there's no looking back. Build your skills, your talent, your fervor, as Nenad has done. Avoid the talk of the enemy; we know it pervades through all realms of Robotech fandom nowadays, so avoid all realms of Robotech fandom. When you're ready to return, when the time to strike is right, then you will be better. You will stand a far greater chance to succeed. Now is not the time. But it will come, and if you are patient enough and willing to do more than talk until that time comes, you will be able to do something glorious.

Sincerely yours,
Adam Schiller

Admirable, but wouldn't it be simpler to just say, "Make something original and get paid doing it?"

Perhaps though, you would have a higher chance of success convincing the people on DeviantArt who produce fan art. There are all types of extremely talented artists who "should" be doing original work, but are stuck in that fan phase for an indefinite period. Believe me, I've seen plenty.

In all honesty though, "talented" Robotech artists and fiction writers are dime a dozen in this day and age, and I wonder just how many are you trying to convince to get out of this 'poisonous' fandom entirely to pursue other avenues. Maybe you should post in other areas of the Robofandom this "call to arms" message of yours..? It's a start to wean fans out of their beloved franchise.

You most certainly know you shouoldnt call us to ARMS, as we are already armed...

With production(Make something original and get paid doing it) already in plans...

So there is really nothing to convince us about...We already are on it..

We convinced ourselves quite some time ago,,,,

Well, in any case, I am interested in the direction Adam's taking Valkyrion, and I look forward to working on that in the near future. In the meantime, I'll continue my own fanwork as I see fit.

Ahem. This is way offtopic. I will move this topic into the U.E.G lobby....

yeah well, but this is a Robotech forum and the only thing people who comes here has in common it's they like Robotech. What would people think with all the right sense if you make a Robotech forum claiming you love Robotech, it's one of the best things you've ever seen and later tell them the best thing you can do it's to leave it. Please let's have the minimun coherence possible.

Besides, anyone who still considers to be a Robotech fan, (and for the record I do) cant come up under any scenario to the definitive conclusion that leaving Robotech, at least in a general sense, it's the best thing you can do. That's completely non sense and under the simplest analysis the "I am a Robotech fan and I say the best thing to do it's to leave Robotech" doesnt make any sense. People who thinks like that has to pay a look at themselves and see if they are still Robotech fans, clarify their thoughts first. That, of course, doesnt mean that you as a Robotech fan cant start other non Robotech projects.

Charmquark2 wrote:
...anyone who still considers to be a Robotech fan...cant come up under any scenario to the definitive conclusion that leaving Robotech, at least in a general sense, it's the best thing you can do.
I outlined the reasoning for this in my first post. If you need further clarification to understand, please let me know. The arguement has already been raised; you should either rebut it or support it, but not ignore it.

Define : LEAVE ROBOTECH....

What is it you have , so you can LEAVE IT....?


Leave robotech = Stop posting about it,stop thinking about it.. what?
What is there stopping anyone from being creative, and what is there to be left...



Being a part of any fandom, liking something, is something personal( not proffesional). I am a Robotech fan( and a Gundam fan, and a Trekkie..) Does that stop me from "anything" . Offcourse it doesnt...

The fist thing you need to realise is : There is nothing binding anyone here...( you included)... There never was.